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Sunday
Apr152012

645 PRO could be a "game changer" for many iPhone photographers

Following on from my last post, and developer Mike Hardaker being unfairly criticised over his use of the word "RAW" in 645 PRO's pre release description, I decided to take the final release candidate for a spin today, and here are my thoughts on this new (yet to be released/approved) app.

Before I start, I'm going to say one thing, and that is, "for me 645 PRO is a game changer", and an app that any serious photographer using an iPhone will want to own and use. I can hear many of you asking "why?" Well read on, and hopefully you'll see why, and agree with me.

The App

645 PRO offers 5 different film formats from square 6x6 to a panoramic 6x17, 7 live view film effects (4 colour and 3 black and white), focus, exposure and white balance locks, spot and average exposure metering, self timer, level indicator, grid and flash on/off options. Once configured (and you will need to read the manual), like Mike's other apps 6x6 and 6x7, 645 PRO is easy to use, with a well laid out UI, and with all film and format types/styles, produces excellent results.

The Hype

Many blogs (including the iPhoneography blog) may have hyped up the use of the term RAW in the apps description, and many commenters have criticised the use of this word. Now I'm not going to comment or pass any judgment on whether the use of the ward RAW in the description is right or wrong, or misleading, but what I will say, and as the photos below show, is the apps ability to capture unfiltered "raw data" is a "game changer".

Shooting JPEG +RAW

Whether you choose to shoot with one of the colour or black and white film stocks, if you choose to shoot with the RAW option enabled, then the app will save a standard JPEG version to the camera roll, and a raw, unfiltered version (TIFF format) to the apps internal documents folder. Whilst this copy of the photo can't be accessed or editing on the iPhone, it can be copied via iTunes to your Mac or PC for editing with a desktop application. Whilst some may ask "what's the point of this?", it becomes very clear when you take a black and white photo, as the app saves a high quality, colour "unfiltered" "raw" version, that you can use later, if/when wanted. Whilst this feature won't be for everyone, for me it is the "game changer" I keep mentioning.

Below are 3 sample shoots all taken with 645 PRO, using the 6x17 panoramic film back (with Schneider iPro wide-angle lens attached), and with JPEG +RAW enabled. The first photo was taken with one of the black and white film stocks, the second image is the unfiltered raw version, and the final image is the unfiltered raw TIFF version processed through Snapseed for Mac OSX, and saved back as a JPEG.

Final Thoughts

If 645 PRO gets approved by Apple (and I sincerely hope it does), then many serious photographers will find the apps ability to save a "raw unfiltered photo" (not to be confused with RAW file format) a god send. Whilst I think this is the single most important feature, the apps others advanced features and UI should not be forgotten, as this truely is a great app.

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Reader Comments (30)

Looking forward to this apps release too. The results you show in the three examples above are quite impressive and contrasting, but could you have achieved the same final effect by tweaking the b&w image you took originally?

I can see how the use of the term RAW can be misleading but I can see the otherwise of the argument too, if you read the explanaition on the app's web site all becomes clear.

Fingers crossed it'll be out soon, any ideas on price?
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterTim Bowden
As a professional photographer, through the many (too many) years of my profession, I've used 8x10, 4x5, 2 1/4 x 2 1/4, and 35mm film cameras .... then DSLR ... now .... iPhone. Naturally I use the iPhone for pure creative pleasure and it's my favorite camera that has the convenience of having a phone built in :)
The Pro 645 app has excited me more than any camera app yet. To regain all that control is huge to me and I'm sitting on the edge of my seat waiting and hoping it gets approved. As for the "RAW" .... I think that's awesome to be able to save a JPEG and "RAW" to download to my Mac .... wow .... I get to play with an image on my iPhone or iPad and also on my Mac ... it just doesn't get any better than that!
Thank you Mike for creating this app and Thank You Glyn for bringing it to light and reviewing.
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMarlene DeGrood
@Tim, yeah, I probably could have, and showing the 3rd sample as another black and white was probably not the best idea, but what I was showing, is that with the raw version, you could edit in any way you like.
April 15, 2012 | Registered CommenterEditor
I think what bothers me is the use of the term RAW to describe what seems to me to be a TIFF file without any alterations in-phone. This is welcome, of course, but it is like calling a daisy a rose. You can call it a rose, but it will never have the petals, size, and aroma of a rose. As for other functions, the app seems very impressive and compelling but many other apps offer roses and serve up daisies. So, we will have to wait and see.
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJack
How is the "raw" version that 645 saves different/better than the "Save Original" functionality available in some other apps? I get that the "Save Original" photo undergoes JPEG compression, but it saves to the camera roll and can be modified by other iPhone apps.

So what really makes this "raw" TIFF a game changer?
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterStephan
@Stephen, the reason 645 PRO is a game changer for me, is, I can choose to shoot in black and white (or any of the other film effect), and then if I had wished I'd shot in colour, then I have a raw unfiltered colour version of that photo stored in the apps internal document folder, that I can load to my Mac and either edit on my Mac, or convert to a JPEG and transfer back to my iPhone for editing. Now, I know I could just shoot in colour and then convert to black and white, but maybe I like the apps film effects.

This app clearly isn't going to be for everyone, but it is the app for me.
April 15, 2012 | Registered CommenterEditor
I don't doubt that this is a great app, but I have trouble trusting developers who lie for the sake of marketing. That's a shame, especially since I have one of their other apps - 6x6 - which I really enjoy.

This app doesn't shoot RAW. They're misusing the word, using it more in the sense of a raw vegetable than a RAW file format. And, yes, that is one aspect of what a RAW file is, but that's only one part of it. Without the other capabilities of what IS a RAW file, one does not get RAW.

If Nikon or Canon released a camera that claimed to shoot RAW but only gave unedited TIFFs, they'd be laughed out of business.

RAW is a specific file format, not just an untouched file. While I wouldn't expect most people to know that, I would expect photographers who own DSLRs to know that, and I certainly would expect such misrepresentations to have been corrected through the beta stages of app development. Perhaps the developers weren't lying but, rather, they simply didn't know better? Doubtful, but perhaps. At this point, it's clear that they do know better but are intentionally choosing to misrepresent the app's capabilities. That's a shame since it does look to be a really good app. But it's a really good app by developers who choose to intentionally misrepresent what the app can do because they know the term RAW will be a big draw.

Like I said, this may be a great app, but they're intentionally misrepresenting its capabilities. I have a hard time trusting a developer who would do that.

"No" amount "of quotes" change what "RAW" actually "means" in terms of "photography."
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
Really interesting iPhoneography twist. Too bad the workflow seems pretty clumsy, and honestly, I will be amazed if Apple approves this app. But if the do, I will definitely be buying it, mostly out of curiosity.
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterNelson
Stephan asked: "How is the "raw" version that 645 saves different/better than the "Save Original" functionality available in some other apps?"

I'd be curious to know this as well. I've always thought Save Original was a brilliant idea. What's different here other than that it's a TIFF instead of a jpeg?
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
@Rob. I don't think the dev deliberately mislead any of us, he has clearly stated on his blog that he is referring to raw data. It's blogs that have misrepresented the app, something that I'm as guilty as the next one, with the way I used the word RAW in my post title, and for that I apologise.
April 15, 2012 | Registered CommenterEditor
Actually, Glen, it looks to me like blogs are simply using the information they've been given. On their own site, it's always written as RAW, never raw.

The developers really should just say "unprocessed original."
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRob
Stephan/Rob: "How is the "raw" version that 645 saves different/better than the "Save Original" functionality available in some other apps?". The main difference is that it hasn't been through the one or (typically) two stages of JPEG compression involved in other iOS camera apps. If you care about the technical quality of your images that's important (and no, not that many people do care *that* much - we do know this is a niche function in a niche app). The secondary difference is that you don't get your Camera Roll cluttered up with apparent duplicates of the same image (something our feedback suggested that our users generally dislike).

And, I've been trying to stay out of this, but...

RAW is not "a specific file format" but a really very broad concept that involves (among many other things) many dozens - and probably hundreds - of specific file formats and many wildly different types of image data.

The term seemed the most appropriate for what we are doing, in the context of "RAW image data", as distinct from image data that has been subject to 1) lossy JPEG compression and 2) potentially other processing in addition to *that which is native to the camera hardware/firmware*. We are very clear that we are not creating "Camera RAW format files", but do feel that "RAW image data" is the most concise, accurate and descriptive term to use for the data we are saving, and fundamentally consistent with the many, many ways in which RAW is used in the image-processing industry, particularly in the context of an iPhone app using data from an iPhone image sensor.

Some disagree with that decision (and some, clearly, feel extremely strongly about the matter). They feel that the term "RAW" should only be used in a much narrower context. And it's very difficult to say that they're wrong because, to them, it does indeed have that narrow meaning (even if, to plenty of others, it does not).

We're not trying to mislead anybody or misrepresent anything and we don't - to be honest - think we really are, since we're very clear about what we're doing (and pitching to the sort of audience that is likely to read spec sheets *very* carefully).

One thing is pretty clear: the (few) people that have complained about our use of the word RAW are not in any way misled, but simply angry that we are using a word in a way with which they disagree.

So it's not about "lying" but, rather, the use of a word - or even a form of capitalisation - that some believe should have a very narrow meaning (making our use of it illegitimate), but we and others understand to have a rather broader one (making the converse true).

We will, of course, revisit our terminology - along with everything else - when we have rather more feedback post-launch.
April 15, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike Hardaker
Please give up the overuse and abuse of the word "whilst". It is more than a little pretentious to constantly use an archaic word. Please just use "while".
April 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMykeljon
Hi guys, as someone who never cares to know what RAW is but just knew about it thanks to 645, here's my take:

What Mike is trying to explain by his app's raw or RAW is simply photo files that are not subjected to compression. As we can see, compression helps make photo files smaller and more efficient to use. If iOS doesn't have compression, it would take a much longer time for iphoneography to become what it is now. If YouTube is all HD, it wouldnt become popular as it is now because it is not economical to begin with it.

It's not like our standard JPEGs suck, only that the raw TIFF files are better because it is untouched. Yeah, on a note, TIFF are worse because it is larger but that's the price for inorganic optics.

It's all about having options. Another example I can think of is photo burst vs video extract. Would you rather record a 1080p video at 30 FPS and extract the desired frames or take super fast stills at the same pixel count like video (but lower than normal resolution) with comparable FPS? Who cares, they are almost the same--yeah maybe, but in stills, JPEGs are intercoded while in video frames, they are intracoded.

So yeah, don't think that JPEGs suck, but only TIFFs are better--in a way. ;-)
April 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMiege
@Mykeljon. If you don't like my style of writing, then don't read my posts. This is my blog, and I'll write and use the words I choose!!
April 16, 2012 | Registered CommenterEditor
@Mykeljon

T'was my thought whilst I pondered as well.
April 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterbigler
@Mykeljon
Not sure how your comment regarding the legitimate use of "whilst" is relevant to the subject matter. You may find it irksome, but, as Mr. Evans points out, it's his blog. I used to point out and gain self-satisfaction from other people's grammatical variations and misspellings but realised it was an ego thing to feel so personally on matters that really are none of my concern. All the best.
April 16, 2012 | Unregistered Commentermsy
this app would have excited me in the past (before i bought an SLR camera) but now that i have a real camera that shoots in real RAW (which i never use because its too much hassle and takes up over 10MB per photo) this app doesn't excite me the least. Even if this app was to look sound and function like a real camera, the whole concept is stupid because real careas are slow and a real pain in the arse to use when compared to the iphone. The beauty of iphone is that you can write apps which take the best features of the iphone and put them to good use.(ie. some other apps have the ability to to take pictures by tapping anywhere on the screen) however emulating the function of a rotational knob on the iphone screen like this app has is just user interface nightmare. In my opinion, the iphone excels at many types of photography, ie. street/lomo/black and white/artistic.... however it really really sucks at emulating a decent camera. Go to your local electronics retailer, and pick up the cheapest and nastiest bargain bin point and shoot camera, and i can almost guarantee that it will take better photos than the iphone. What makes the iphone great is apps that apply nice filters that give these 'average' photos a nice quality... apps like this SLR RAW emulation wannabe totally miss this and are nothing more than a gimmick. I put this app in the same league as apps that promise to take 12Megapixel photos from your 5 megapixel iphone. It simply is not posible due to hardware limitations. So to sum up, to me, this app is gimmicky and annoying. I will stick with apps like hipstamatic, and lomore and nofinder.
April 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMark
@Mark, I think you've really missed the point of this app. You can choose to use it like any other camera replacement app, shoot and have images saved direct to the camera roll, or if desired, you can also have a none compressed TIFF version of the shot to use.

This app gives you options and choices, and is up to the individual to take advantage of or not.
April 16, 2012 | Registered CommenterEditor
RAW file formats store the data of each RGB pixel site before they are interpolated. There are 3 layers of pixel channels representing the red, green, and blue filtered pixel sites.

These are then blended to create the standard bitmaps with the interpreted colors for each pixel.

This software does not create RAW files. The Bayesian pattern has already been interpolated in a lossy fashion to create the TIFF.

In my opinion, this is a blatant deception.
April 16, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterEd Rodgers

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